Grace Thompson
In Crusader Kings II, players can choose to secretly convert their character's religion. To become a secret Catholic, one must have the Sons of Abraham expansion and currently follow the parent religion. This can be achieved by right-clicking on a holy site holding and selecting to secretly convert, which costs 250 piety. Alternatively, players can use the secret_religion command, specifying catholic as the religion ID. Secretly converting also converts spouses and children, except for those who already had a secret religion.
| Characteristics | Values |
|---|---|
| Cost | 250 Piety |
| Other options | Imprison or convert publicly |
| Secret conversion options | Friend, spouse, or concubine |
| Demesne county's population | |
| Demesne county's holy site | |
| Cultist tries to secretly induct | |
| Lord spiritual converts to a heresy | |
| Falsely converting to liege's religion | 100 Piety (50 if you already have a secret religion) |
| Religion ID for Catholicism | 'catholic' |
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What You'll Learn
Secretly converting your character to Catholicism
To secretly convert your character to Catholicism in CK2, there are a few methods you can use. Firstly, you must have the "Sons of Abraham" expansion enabled, and your character must currently follow a religion that has Catholicism as its parent religion, such as one of the heresies.
One method is to spend 250 piety to secretly convert. This can be done by right-clicking on a Catholic holy site that you control and choosing the secret conversion option. This will also secretly convert your spouse and children, except for those who already have a secret religion.
Another way to secretly convert is by falsely adopting your liege's or top liege's religion. This costs 100 piety, or 50 piety if you already have a secret religion. This option allows you to politically adopt your liege's religion while continuing to practice Catholicism in secret. Your courtiers will also have the option to join you in this false conversion, sharing both your public religion and your secret Catholic faith.
Additionally, you may encounter events or situations where you are given the option to secretly convert to Catholicism. For example, if a cultist tries to induct you into their secret religion, you may choose to accept and become a secret Catholic instead.
It's worth noting that having a secret religion, such as Catholicism, can impact your interactions with other characters and may require careful management to avoid suspicion or negative consequences.
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Converting a spouse or child to Catholicism
There are several ways to convert your spouse or child to Catholicism in CK2. Here are some strategies:
Spouse Conversion:
- Marry a Catholic Character: One way to ensure your spouse shares your faith is to marry a character who is already Catholic. This method may be restricted by certain rulesets that prohibit interfaith marriages.
- Convert to Your Spouse's Faith: If you marry a Catholic spouse, you can choose to convert to their faith. This option may require piety, depending on the specific circumstances.
- Secret Conversion: If you become friends or lovers with a Catholic character, you can right-click on their portrait to secretly convert to Catholicism. This option costs 250 piety.
Child Conversion:
- Heir Guardian: Appoint a Catholic guardian for your heir. This method may not always work, but it increases the likelihood of your child converting to Catholicism.
- Secret Society Induction: If you are part of a secret Catholic society, you can attempt to induct your child. This process can be challenging, as it involves trait comparisons and the risk of suspicion.
- County Conversion: By controlling a Catholic holy site or county, you can right-click on the holding and choose to secretly convert to Catholicism. This option also costs 250 piety.
It is important to note that some of these methods may have specific requirements or restrictions, and they may not always guarantee the conversion of your spouse or child. The presence of DLCs or certain rulesets can also influence the available options and mechanics for religious conversion.
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Adopting a liege's religion while keeping Catholicism a secret
Adopting your liege's religion while secretly remaining a Catholic is possible in Crusader Kings II. To do so, you must have the Sons of Abraham enabled and currently follow the parent religion, in this case, Catholicism.
There are several ways to falsely adopt your liege's religion while continuing to practice Catholicism in secret. One way is to make the decision to adopt your liege's or top liege's faith, which will cost you 100 piety (or 50 piety if you already have a secret religion). Your courtiers will then have the option to join you in this false conversion, and if they choose to do so, they will share both your public religion and your secret Catholic faith.
Another way to maintain your secret Catholicism while adopting your liege's religion is to take advantage of certain event chains. For example, if your liege "demands reconversion" or "debates for reconversion", you can choose to only pretend to accept their religion, while still secretly practicing Catholicism.
Additionally, if you control a holy site, you can right-click on the holding and choose to secretly convert to Catholicism. This option is also available if you spend 250 piety, allowing you to secretly convert to the religion of a friend, spouse, or the population of a demesne county, among other options.
It is important to note that maintaining a secret religion can be challenging, especially when trying to induct others into your secret Catholic faith. It often requires a lot of devotion and careful trait selection to avoid raising suspicions.
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Using the CK2 secret_religion command
To become a secret Catholic in CK2, you can use the "secret_religion" command. This command sets the secret religion of a specified character to the specified religion. The syntax for the command is as follows:
"secret_religion [character ID] [religion ID]"
For example, to make your character secretly join the Catholic religion, you would use the command "secret_religion catholic". If you want a specific character to secretly join the Catholic religion, you would include their character ID in the command, such as "secret_religion 10354 catholic".
It is important to note that you must have the "Sons of Abraham" expansion enabled and currently follow the parent religion to use this command. Additionally, choosing to secretly convert will cost you 250 piety, and it will also secretly convert your spouses and children, except for those who already had a secret religion.
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Recruiting people to a secret Catholic society
When it comes to recruiting members for a secret Catholic society, discretion and strategy are key. Here are some guidelines to consider:
Identify Potential Candidates
Look for individuals who share similar personal goals and values that align with the society's Catholic nature. Seek those who are clever and mentally stable, as they are more likely to be reliable and committed members. Avoid leaving vague hints in public places, as this may attract unwanted attention from conspiracy theorists or unstable individuals.
Foster Trust and Discretion
When approaching potential candidates, emphasize the importance of secrecy and the benefits of membership. Explain how the society will help them achieve their personal goals while also furthering the organization's Catholic agenda. Ensure that candidates understand the consequences of disclosure and the necessity of maintaining confidentiality.
Assess Commitment and Compatibility
Before fully inducting new members, consider implementing a trial phase to test their commitment and compatibility with the society's values. This could involve assigning them tasks that align with the society's goals or creating scenarios that assess their loyalty and discretion. For example, they may be led to believe they are founding a new society, only to be "captured" and tested on their willingness to protect their fellow members and the organization's secrets.
Emphasize Mutual Benefit
Members of a secret society typically seek wealth, power, and control. Highlight how joining this Catholic society will benefit them in these areas, whether through access to exclusive networks, knowledge, or opportunities. Ensure that candidates understand the mutual advantage of their membership, fostering a sense of shared gain.
Trait Compatibility
When attempting to recruit someone into a secret society, consider both your traits and the recipient's traits. Choose the option where the difference between your trait and the recipient's trait is greatest in your favor. For example, if your diplomacy skill is high and the recipient's is relatively lower, focusing on diplomacy in your recruitment pitch may be more effective.
By following these guidelines, you can strategically recruit members into your secret Catholic society, ensuring a committed and compatible group of individuals who further the society's goals while maintaining the utmost discretion.
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Frequently asked questions
You can secretly convert to Catholicism by right-clicking on a Catholic holy site you control and selecting the option to secretly convert. This will cost 250 piety.
Yes, you can also secretly convert to the religion of a friend, spouse, or concubine, or the population of a demesne county by spending 250 piety. Alternatively, you can use the "secret_religion" command, specifying "catholic" as the religion ID, to make your character secretly Catholic.
You can do this by deciding to adopt your liege's or top liege's faith, which costs 100 piety (50 if you already have a secret religion). Your courtiers will then have the option to join you in your secret Catholic faith while publicly adopting the liege's religion.
When you invite someone to join your secret religion, you will be presented with four options: Warrior, Charity, Philosophy, and Rulership. You should choose the option where the difference between your trait and the recipient's trait is the greatest in your favor to maximize your chances of success.
